The Allplane Podcast #108: communicating sustainability, w/Elizabeth Maclean & Mike Evans (Herdwick Communications)

Sustainability has become a central topic in aviation, but are airlines prepared for this conversation?

Elizabeth Maclean and Mike Evans are the co-founders of Herdwick Communications, a consultancy firm that advises airlines all over the world.

With Elizabeth and Mike we speak about the reputation crisis and public relations storm that the aviation industry is facing in the face of climate change and how airlines should be communicating about sustainability.

What can airlines say when they are being accused of wrecking the climate? How can airlines avoid greenwashing and end up being sued because of overpromising or misrepresenting their sustainability initiatives? Why so many airlines have opted for greenhushing instead?

Elizabeth and Mike share their views on the matter and the basics of the model they have developed to help airlines deal with these increasingly pressing matters.

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Things we talk about in this episode

  • Elizabeth’s and Mike professional background in airline communications

  • What is a crisis in professional communication terms?

  • Is the airline industry facing a communications crisis over sustainability

  • What can airlines do about it when there are no easy or straightforward answers at hand

  • Greenwashing and greenhushing

  • Is there are model of crisis communications that all airlines can follow regardless of the size?


Resources

Herdwick Communications

Elizabeth and Mike on Linkedin

The Dubai Air Show

flyDubai and Emirates, two airlines Elizabeth and Mike worked for

And the flyDubai flight reviews that I mentioned: business and economy class

Flybe and AB Airlines, mentioned by Mike

The BAC 1-11

IATA’s Net Zero strategy

The court ruling story about KLM’s alleged greenwashing ads

The herdwick sheep, which lends its name to Elizabeth and Mike’s consultancy practice!


Interview Transcript:

(please note that, although we strive to make it as close as possible to the original recording, the transcript may not be 100% accurate)

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